Untangled
State and local governments provide vital services to their citizens and keep them safe. They are also one of the largest employers in the country. They employ about 14 million people in the US, not including public schools and hospitals. However, they’re also wrought with antiquated systems, broken processes, paperwork overwhelm, lack of transparency, and underutilization of intelligent technologies.
If you are a municipal leader, everyday citizen, or work for a state or local government across the US, you’ve come to the right place! Welcome to Untangled, a podcast for municipal leaders, IT managers, CIOs, and city or county council members that focuses on trends in government IT and its current best practices and challenges. Hosted by Abhijit Verekar, the show features special guests from various municipal agencies across the US, team members at Avèro Advisors, and other experienced professionals in the field to share their insights on how to untangle problems and make the Government more innovative and more efficient.
Episodes
124 episodes
What’s a Realistic Timeline for Public Sector Transformation?
Every agency wants modernization to move faster—but how fast is realistic?In this episode of Untangled, Megan Seaton and Robert Kornovich break down the truth about transformation timelines. From readiness a...
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From Phoenix to Policy: Reflections on Housing Innovation at NAHRO 2025
Innovation, AI, and community engagement were front and center at this year’s NAHRO Conference in Phoenix.In this episode of Untangled, Megan Seaton and Robert Kornovich recap key insights from conversations w...
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What’s a Realistic Timeline for Public Sector Transformation?
Every city wants transformation fast—but is faster always better?In this episode of Untangled, Megan Seaton and Robert Kornovich break down what it really takes to modernize a public agency. From readiness assessments to vendor...
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Modern Policing & Data-Driven Leadership: A Conversation with Chief Paul Noel
In this episode of Untangled, Avero Advisors CEO Abhijit Verekar sits down with Chief Paul Noel, Knoxville’s 27th Chief of Police, to explore how visionary leadership and technology are reshaping modern policing.Kn...
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From Benchmarks to Predictive SIS: The Future of Student Data
This episode of Untangled explores how student data is moving beyond static benchmarks toward predictive insights that can actually guide educators, counselors, and families. We discuss:Why legacy SIS platforms limit progre...
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From Disaster to Best Practices: Lessons in Government ERP
ERP projects don’t have to end in disaster. While some agencies struggle with payroll crises and costly failures, others—like Atlanta—prove that success is possible when leaders follow proven principles.In this episode of Untangled
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2026 Paradigm Shifts: Rethinking Government ERP Implementations
The landscape of government ERP is shifting fast. As agencies look ahead to 2026, it’s clear the old frameworks for selection, contracts, and implementation no longer fit today’s realities.From AI maturity and workforce expectations to r...
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ERP Contracts Uncovered: Avoiding the Fine Print Traps
Once you sign an ERP contract, your leverage is gone. So why are so many public-sector agencies still rushing that moment?In this episode of Untangled, Megan sits down with Avero Project Manager Billie to unpack the reali...
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Modern Finance in Government: AI, Strategy & the Future CFO
From ARPA funds to AI, the role of government finance leaders is shifting—and fast.In this episode of Untangled, the Avero team breaks down the trends shaping the future of public-sector finance, strategy, and modernizati...
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Procurement Politics: How to Keep Vendor Selection Fair & Focused
Procurement isn’t just paperwork—it’s politics. And if you don’t manage it strategically, your entire ERP project could be compromised.In this episode of Untangled, the Avero team digs into the behind-the-scenes dynamics ...
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Define Success Before You Fund It: Project Scope Done Right
In this episode of Untangled, Megan and Robert Karnovitch walk through one of the biggest blind spots in ERP and modernization projects: vague or one-sided scopes that lead to underbudgeting, delays, and rework.You’ll learn:...
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EAM in Focus: Strategic Asset Management for Modern Government
What does it take to modernize how governments manage roads, bridges, buildings—and everything in between?In this episode of Untangled, Avero Advisors CEO Abhijit Verekar sits down with Associate Consultant Caleb Cruz to ...
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AI & GovTech: The Race to Do It Right
In this episode of Untangled, AV sits down with Vidhu Shekhar, AI thought leader and Microsoft executive, to explore what it really means to lead in the age of artificial intelligence—from space-based data centers to responsible AI ado...
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AI’s Tipping Point: July’s Seismic Shifts in GovTech
In this solo episode, AV breaks down what made July 2025 a defining moment in AI and government technology. From the release of Grok-4 and the anticipated rollout of GPT-5 to massive infrastructure investments and evolving federal AI policy—thi...
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Timelines, Trust & Transformation: What It Really Takes to Modernize Public Sector Tech
ERP projects don’t fail because of software—they fail because of unrealistic timelines, poor planning, and missing advocacy. In this episode of Untangled, Avero’s Abhijit Verekar and Robert Kornovich unpack the real drivers behind succ...
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Modernizing Government Finance: Insights from GFOA 2025
What’s really driving the future of government finance? In this episode of Untangled, Avero’s Megan Seaton, Abhijit Verekar, and David Buchan share raw, real-time insights from the 2025 GFOA Annual Conference.From AI tools that ...
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GFOA 2025: What Public Finance Leaders Are Really Talking About
Live from the GFOA 2025 conference, Avero Advisors recaps the real-world challenges, surprising confessions, and hard-earned lessons shared by finance leaders from across the country. In this special episode, AV and team break down the biggest ...
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Public Good, Private Code: AI Ethics in Local Government
AI in government isn’t just about automation—it’s about ethics, accountability, and public trust.In this episode of Untangled, we sit down with Tom Gilbert, CEO of Hortise.AI and one of the world’s first PhDs in AI Ethics, to ex...
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Beyond the Bid: What the UK’s £144M ERP Deal Teaches Us About Transformation
When the UK government awarded a £144 million contract to Workday and Cognizant, it wasn’t just about technology—it was a masterclass in scale, procurement efficiency, and what it takes to modernize across multiple agencies.In this episo...
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Flight Plan for ERP: Lessons in Leadership, Checklists, and Control
What do ERP transformations and flying a plane have in common? More than you'd think.In this unique episode of Untangled, Avero CEO Abhijit Verekar (AV) is joined by Associate Consultant and pilot-in-training Isaac to explore th...
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GovTech Unfiltered: Live Q&A with Abhijit Verekar
In this candid live session, Avero Advisors CEO Abhijit Verekar pulls back the curtain on the realities of public sector transformation. From vaporware promises in ERP demos to project red flags leadership often misses, this Q&A tackles the...
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Retaining Trust & Fueling Growth – The New Era of Government Client Success
What does real partnership look like in government modernization?In this episode of Untangled, Avero’s VP of Client Success, Robert Kornovich, joins Megan Seaton to unpack what it takes to build lasting, trust-based relat...
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The Future of AI for Constituent Services & CRM for Government
AI is a powerful tool in CRM, but how does it actually contribute to revenue growth? In this live session, Parth Shah, CEO of Polimorphic, will discuss how AI can convert customer data into tangible, measurable revenue. We’ll explore how AI enh...
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How We've Helped Our Clients Overcome the Biggest Challenges in Public Sector Transformations
In this episode, we explore how public sector organizations have navigated the toughest challenges during their ERP transformations. From managing outdated systems and data conversion to overcoming internal resistance and change fatigue, we div...
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Beyond the Comfort Zone: Leading Through Growth and Change
What does it really take to lead during periods of rapid growth and transformation? This episode explores how leadership evolves when an organization scales, why vulnerability is a strength—not a weakness—and how to create clarity amid chaos. Y...
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